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BeitragVerfasst am: 31.01.2020, 17:09    Titel: Re: Crowdestate (Estland) Antworten mit Zitat

Lendlord hat Folgendes geschrieben:
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...Baltic Forest OÜ contracts can be traded on Crowdestate’s secondary market from Monday, February 3rd, 2020....


Juhu, dann kann ich den endlich abstoßen Smile Mal schauen, für wieviel.


Bin ich auch gespannt. Minizahlungen ab April, letzte Zahlung 31.12.2026.
Quasi 'ne Rente. Wenn es denn gutgehen würde Very Happy
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BeitragVerfasst am: 29.02.2020, 00:12    Titel: Re: Crowdestate (Estland) Antworten mit Zitat

Hat sich schon irgendjemand mit den neuen Steuerregeln auf der Plattform auseinandergesetzt?
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BeitragVerfasst am: 13.03.2020, 13:23    Titel: Re: Crowdestate (Estland) Antworten mit Zitat

Zur Situation in Italien von Crowdestate* eben per Mail

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ITALIAN MARKET OVERVIEW

Hello Claus


Following the measures ordered by the Italian Government to contain the health emergency caused by the spread of Covid-19, it seems right to us to take stock of the situation and explain in what direction our next steps will move.

In particular, in Italy the "DECREE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS 8 March 2020" has been issued (OJ General Series n.59 of 08-03-2020) which provides for urgent measures to counter and contain the spread of the contagion and enable the health system to manage the epidemic. To this end, gatherings, public recreational and recreational activities and, in general, everything considered superfluous have been banned; however, for the time being, work activities are proceeding, even if with the request to encourage, where possible, business continuity through work from home.

Our Italian team, in accordance with the guidelines issued by the Government, is carrying out its activities in smart working without affecting the continuity of the business in order to help contain the spread of contagion.

As far as the Sponsor companies and the projects themselves financed through our platform are concerned, we can confirm that they are progressing without slowing down; in fact, we have confirmation from the Sponsor companies that the work is proceeding as planned:

"Our work is progressing. The construction companies working for us are progressing and the construction sites are open, in accordance with the rules. From the point of view of the progress of work at the moment we do not discount delays. As far as sales are concerned, we note a drop in visits but no slowdown in sales, which continue over the very last few days".

- "WeProperty" Sponsor Company


As this is a temporary situation, we have every reason to trust that it will not have a negative impact on the investment opportunities promoted, which are aimed at long-term objectives. For this reason, we continue to support and promote the business of the Sponsor companies with whom we work and the interests of all our investors.

We are confident that if everyone in his or her own small way is committed to complying with the prohibitions and recommendations, the situation will return to normal as soon as possible.

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BeitragVerfasst am: 17.03.2020, 12:07    Titel: Re: Crowdestate (Estland) Antworten mit Zitat

Respekt, Crowdestate* haut weiter neue Kredite raus. Mit 10% Rendite wird das wohl nichts.

Was meint ihr, liquidieren?
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BeitragVerfasst am: 17.03.2020, 14:52    Titel: Re: Crowdestate (Estland) Antworten mit Zitat

Ich hab schon in der ersten Februarhälfte sehr viel über den Zweitmarkt verkauft.

Ich hab nur noch Tööstuse 16 und Tammelehe 4. Von letzterem allerdings mehrere Anteile für insgesamt 400€.
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BeitragVerfasst am: 17.03.2020, 15:25    Titel: Re: Crowdestate (Estland) Antworten mit Zitat

Scheint eh zu spät zu sein.
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BeitragVerfasst am: 22.03.2020, 11:21    Titel: Re: Crowdestate (Estland) Antworten mit Zitat

Au weia, Crowdestate* bekommt seine Kredite nicht mehr wirklich "gefüllt".

Habe spaßeshalber vor fast genau drei Tagen einen Screenshot gemacht, hier mal die Zahlen von vor drei Tagen und aktuell:

Pinturicchio 5 (II): 20500 -> 26200
Veskimöldre 2 (VI): 87800 -> 90500
Joeküla tee 18: 50000 -> 53900
Sassari 15 (I): 71300 -> 72800

Da tut sich vergleichsweise sehr wenig..

Auch ich habe schon gegen Jahresende massiv abgebaut und auf dem Zweitmarkt verkauft. Auslöser waren die unschönen Ereignisse und schlechte Due Diliigence bei Tammelehe, Lepa Tee usw..
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BeitragVerfasst am: 22.03.2020, 11:45    Titel: Re: Crowdestate (Estland) Antworten mit Zitat

Starker Rückgang der Neuanlagen trifft alle plattformen. Manche etwas weniger, manche stärker
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BeitragVerfasst am: 25.03.2020, 13:43    Titel: Re: Crowdestate (Estland) Antworten mit Zitat

War mir nicht sicher, ob das hier schon gepostet wurde:

Zitat:
Dear investor


We would like to remind your that the voting for H.M. Seafood OÜ restructuring will end at 5 pm this Friday.

H.M. Seafood OÜ raised capital from Crowdestate* investors twice last spring for a total amount of EUR 550 000. Since the fall of last year, H.M. Seafood OÜ hasn’t serviced its loan obligations correctly and as a result, the Guarantee Agent has cancelled the loan agreements and started to collect the debt.

During the debt collection process, H.M. Seafood OÜ has made various proposals to pay the outstanding debt through the restoration of the company's economic activities and involvement of additional business partners. For our part, Crowdestate* has made additional requests under which conditions we would be prepared to submit a debt rescheduling and payment proposal to Crowdestate's investors for approval, and most of our requests have reached the following proposal.

If the below proposal gets the approval of ⅔ investors (as measured by the amount of capital raised), we will continue to work towards a legally binding agreement. Before concluding the final agreement, we will disclose to all investors who have signed a loan agreement with H.M Seafood OÜ, the exact text of the agreement and we will ask for your consent to the agreement.

If less than ⅔ of the investors (as measured by the amount of capital raised) agree with the proposal below, we will read H.M. Seafood OÜ's proposal as rejected and we will move on to bankruptcy and claiming Mrs Heli Loim’s personal guarantee. Given the current situation of H.M Seafood OÜ, the process of bankruptcy and the personal guarantee collection does not result in the repayment of all involved loans.

Please read the compromise proposal below and vote in favor or against by clicking here.
All investors who haven’t voted shall be deemed to have voted against.

Main points of the compromise proposal

H.M. Seafood OÜ is able to offer the following compromise terms to Crowdestate* investors:

The amount of the claim to be recovered shall be EUR 573 863,09 in principal and interest;
The claim will be converted into a 10% interest payment schedule with a 50 month period. H.M. According to Seafood OÜ, the company will not be able to service a larger claim even if the business is successfully restarted.
The compromise is conditional on a one-off repayment of EUR 50 000 before the compromise is reached;
As part of the payment schedule, H.M. Seafood OÜ will immediately make two further payments of EUR 50 000 at the beginning of the payment schedule, including EUR 25 000 by 30.04.2020, and EUR 25 000 by 31/05/2020.
The payment schedule shall be drawn up so that the last principal payment will be made by 31.05.2024 and the principal payment shall be EUR 50 000 (bullet);
The compromise is concluded in a notarial form and is subject to immediate compulsory execution;
Agreements on subordination, reporting and limitation of disbursements are part of the compromise;
The current commercial pledge and a personal guarantee by Mrs Heli Loim will remain as collateral. In addition, VLK Trading OÜ, a new investor and business partner, will join the commitments of H.M. Seafood OÜ.


Toll klingt das alles nicht...
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BeitragVerfasst am: 26.03.2020, 15:51    Titel: Re: Crowdestate (Estland) Antworten mit Zitat

Auch interessant. Nicht dass ich es wagen würde die gerade zu empfehlen...
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Crowdestate would like to share the following information with you:

“Dear publishers,

Like all other crowdfunding platforms, we have seen a significant decrease in the investors’ investment appetite and the funding speeds have slowed down. As this impact Crowdestate’s cash flow, we have taken necessary steps to cut costs to ensure the business can be run profitably and sustainably. Therefore, we have had to change the commission fees for some time being. As of April, we won't pay for any new leads (new sign ups and investment accounts) but stick to sales only - 0.5% from the first investments in 60 days.

We will give our marketing budget another look at the beginning of summer or when the situation on the market has calmed down.

Our team is working from their home until further notice. Our technology and platform are up and running 24/7 and investors can invest, trade and withdraw their funds as usual.

Please stay safe and take care of your health.

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BeitragVerfasst am: 26.03.2020, 15:56    Titel: Re: Crowdestate (Estland) Antworten mit Zitat

Habt ihr schon euren Vote dagelassen in der H.M. Seafood Abstimmung?
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BeitragVerfasst am: 26.03.2020, 16:39    Titel: Re: Crowdestate (Estland) Antworten mit Zitat

Ich habe den Deal angenommen.
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BeitragVerfasst am: 01.05.2020, 12:17    Titel: Re: Crowdestate (Estland) Antworten mit Zitat

Ab 4. mai kopiert Crowdestate* das Vorgehen von Estateguru* und nimmt 2% Gebühr auf dem Zweitmarkt

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Crowdestate is proud to be one of the very first crowdfunding marketplaces that introduced the secondary market to its investors with an aim to offer early exit opportunities for unforeseen circumstances. Since the introduction of our secondary market, transactions in the amount of close to 15 million EUR have been concluded there. Like all our other services, the secondary market has been free of charge for our investors for years.

The global COVID19 outbreak and the resulting economic freeze have had an impact on both our Sponsors as well as investors, and consequently, on Crowdestate’s business as well. Due to the real estate companies’ current lack of interest in starting new projects, there have been fewer investment opportunities on the platform than usual, and the ones that have been published have temporarily experienced much lower interest than the previous ones. Similarly to global equity investors, crowdfunding investors have been selling their investments below their true value, and hence, making the secondary market often more attractive than our primary market. All those changes have had a negative impact on our top line and have directed us towards introducing a secondary market transaction fee.

Therefore, starting from May 4, 2020, all transactions concluded on the secondary market are subject to a transaction fee of 2%. The fee will be charged to the seller’s account simultaneously to concluding the sales-purchase transaction.

Buying investments in the marketplace and investing in new investment opportunities will continue to be without a fee. As well as using an Autoinvest tool and depositing or withdrawing money.


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BeitragVerfasst am: 01.05.2020, 13:50    Titel: Re: Crowdestate (Estland) Antworten mit Zitat

Irgendwie verständlich, ja. Aber die Vorlaufzeit ist quasi 0, schon am nächsten Werktag tritt das ein. Das finde ich nicht ok.
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BeitragVerfasst am: 01.05.2020, 13:51    Titel: Re: Crowdestate (Estland) Antworten mit Zitat

Oktaeder hat Folgendes geschrieben:
Irgendwie verständlich, ja. Aber die Vorlaufzeit ist quasi 0, schon am nächsten Werktag tritt das ein. Das finde ich nicht ok.


Wieso sind Werktage wichtig für dich? Die Plattform funktioniert doch auch am Wochenende.
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